Dining Across the Divide: Perspectives on Migration and Culture
Introducing the Participants
Steve, 64, Canvey Island
Occupation: Former underwriter
Voting record: Usually Conservative, apart from when he resided in “the socialist republic of south Hackney” and voted for the Social Democratic Party
Amuse bouche: His specialty in insurance was kidnap and ransom: “Everyone always says that insurance is dull, but it’s far from it when you’re planning rescuing people from South Korea because the DPRK have activated the weapon systems”
Eva, 25, the capital
Occupation: Graduate in psychology
Political history: In her native land, New Zealand, she supported both Labour and Green
Interesting fact: Eva has worked as a singer on cruise ships; her longest trip was half a year, which is a long time to be on a boat
For starters
She: Steve seemed there to have a nice time, to be receptive
He: She seemed like a very intelligent, well-spoken, pleasant person
Eva: I had a caprese salad, mushroom pasta, and a rich sweet treat, it was delicious
The big beef
Eva: He was certainly on the side of immigration being reduced. He thinks that UK residents who are native to the area, including non-white Caucasian Britons, face limited access to the essential services, because increasing numbers are arriving. Whereas I just disagree that the numbers are that bad
Steve: I’m for qualified migrants, I have no desire to reside in a homogeneous, WASP country with warm beer. But I believe that authorities have exploited immigration to occupy positions they can’t get people to do without raising wages. Pay are suppressed, so taxes have to be kept low, so we are unable to improve services – allocate additional funds on child support, on schooling, on technology
She: I don’t have that much knowledge of the EU referendum, because I was sixteen and not living here when it occurred. He clarified it to me in a new light. He informed me about “posted workers” – people could come here and receive solely the wage of the their nation of origin
Steve: The French president spent 24 months getting the EU to abolish the system; it was revised in two thousand eighteen. Before that, posted workers coming in were undercutting local employees. Under the former PM, it was petroleum staff that were brought in; later it’s been hospitality, agriculture. She understood that, because she’d worked on a passenger vessel and said she was earning significantly higher than international colleagues
Common ground
Steve: It would be ideal to have a different energy source, come off of oil. I disapprove of environmental harm, I value fresh atmosphere, I appreciate rural areas. We found consensus on a lot of that. But I said, “What do you think of Norway?” Their energy revenues soared after the conflict began, they used that money to develop eco-friendly systems
Eva: So we’re dependent on their petroleum. You can see that’s an unfavorable approach to go about things. He was in favour of continuing our own oil exploration for the small amount we’ll need in the coming years. I partially concur with him. We’re still going to rely on air travel. We both think we should be advancing to environmentally friendly options, turbine fields and water power
For afters
Eva: We touched on anti-Muslim sentiment, though we didn’t call it that. He seemed concerned about extremism coming here – he did note that a many individuals in Middle Eastern countries were extremist, which I felt was not accurate. I think it’s prejudiced to form opinions based on religion
He: I come from the eastern part of London. I asked her if she’d been to that district, and she said it had been modernized. Naturally, I would say that: full of yuppies. But when I go down Chrisp Street market, I look like a foreigner. People gaze at me because it’s become very Muslim. She had a little look at me about that. I used the word “ghetto”. Eva’s got Eastern European roots – she doesn’t like that word, to her it implies poverty. I said, “No, it’s an area that becomes theirs.” I agreed to use a different word – maybe enclave?
Eva: I believe that followers of Islam are really overrepresented in the media as engaging in misconduct. It seems a little bit discriminatory, or xenophobic
Takeaway
Steve: I think we separated amicably. We had a hug at the train stop
She: We both said that we’d had a wonderful evening